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If you have questions, comments, suggestions, flames, or ideas, please feel free to post them here. Also you should let me know if you need a page deleted or if you want to change a locked page (I believe the Main Page is the only one presently locked). I will try to get back to you soon. Please remember to sign your comments with '~~~~'

Pagerank Fraud....

I know you do it for all the girls, but thanks for deleting that morons spam.

--Gölök 12:48, 24 Jul 2006 (EDT)

Random Deletions

Major portions of Michael Badnarik's page were just deleted by user AlaS6r. Do you have any idea what gives?

BTW, I'm trying to make one entry here per day (most days, anyway). -- Stephen Gordon

I'm not completely sure either, but it seems to be automated. Partly because that it seems to be a different new account doing this every time. Note that requiring email confirmation and typing in hard-to-read codes from pictures are steps that are pretty consistently defeated and serve to discourage legitimate contributions. There was an almost identical attack on a few days ago, but they were all from the same numerical address, and it stopped after a three hour ban on it.
My only guess of motive is that I've angered a vandal/spammer/pagerank fraudster with my constant deletion and reversion of their attacks and that this is an attempt at petty revenge. I have not yet figured out a solution for blocking it, not that we can do much until we finally get upgraded to a newer version of MediaWiki.
Thank you very much for your additions. I've been trying to have five updates per day but have been too busy with five space wikis (one of which isn't up for lack of a good name that's not being squatted on (general space wiki), that's almost more of a problem in absentia than having to get it up and running will likely prove to be -- a whole bunch of stuff on and even some stuff finally added to need to be moved there) -- plus I'm starting to run low on low-hanging fruit here (tagging articles, making sense of categories, et c) that doesn't take too much time away from the other wikis I'm responsible for.
Any chance of getting Shane Cory to give you sysop status? My policy for Lunarpedia. et al. is to follow the '150 contributor problem' interpretation of the GNU FDL and require importation of the full page histories to ensure that all '150' or whatever literal figure of contributors are credited as accurately as possible. You need sysop status to import pages, unfortunately. reverting vandalism and the like gets a LOT easier with sysop status (click on [Rollback] instead of manually changing every bleeping article, which I spent too many months doing). My present rule of thumb, if you have any interest, separates ban times by degree to note how much damage was done by that account: one page: 3 years (presently 1092 days), 2 or more: 5 years (presently 1827 days IIRC), and for deluges I've started using 'infinite' (one case I did 25 years (9131 days) -- only one vandal seems to do deluges: they're all extremely consistent. I also preemptively registered what I believe are the next 8 names that wandar will used based on one's most recent successful attack.
--Strangelv 18:32, 12 Apr 2007 (EDT)

1) I probably don't have enoughb wiki background to be a good sysop. 2) If you talk with Shane, he'll probably say I don't have enough time for it, either.

I'll be happy to continue to make entries (more on a hobby basis), but I'd feel committed to a higher level of responsibility if I was a sysop.

--StephenGordon 13:29, 13 Apr 2007 (EDT)
Newer versions of mediawiki have the "undo" button which is similar to "rollback", but it's there for everybody right on Recent Changes. Also, wiki spam is business as usual, not based on revenge for something you've done to them. Mdh 00:19, 29 Aug 2007 (EDT)


Hiya, James. Unfortunately a lot of the content on the WI and MI pages are information that isn't readily available to us. I'd have to dig around quite furiously to find phone numbers for old state party folks, then try and get in contact with them to find out a lot of it. Prior to 1994 may be lost for good. Of the current membership of the state party, the person who's been around longest joined along with the 1994 reformation, however I know we had a state party before that (long story short, the state chair during Ron Paul's 1988 presidential bid is a cab driver here in Morgantown and has driven my drunk libertarian friends and I home before.) Anyways, digging up history is a bit of an ordeal. I'll likely add it if someone volunteers to serve as party historian and gathers it together for me, which is something that Kirsten is interested in having. We are still by and large in the very early stages of reformation - I don't know when we last had a secretary at all, when I moved here the position was vacant and our state chair had gone missing without saying goodbye and... well, yeah. So that's where we've started from. It's been interesting so far. I'm right now working hardcore to get at least the few casually active folks to become official voting members of the party and about 50,000 other things - laying down initiatives, drumming up support (myself and another LPWV'er were out at a anti-war vigil tonight and handed out some LP literature - I do stuff like this a LOT), trying to find a gubernatorial candidate so that we can consider a drive for major party status, buying voter rolls for outreach projects, upgrading our IT infrastructure (I'm a systems security guy by trade), determining proper regional divisions to create regional affiliates, making friends with folks at the LNC HQ, etc. And that's just the LPWV stuff. I will definitly lurk on here, make updates to what exists now, try desperately to keep our information current here, and slowly add more of our state party people. Also, I was thinking you should consider a mediawiki upgrade. Versions this old have some security issues. See for more information on that. Mdh 00:15, 29 Aug 2007 (EDT)

Corey Stern... Hey, I know that guy! He's the liberty cards guy. :) I will reach out to him about lpedia. Mdh 02:21, 13 Sep 2007 (EDT)

Region information

Hello, Strangelv. I have not thought too much about historical regions. My main intention was to have a resource to send newbies to for information, as a lot of new folks are coming into the party, and some of them will even be joining us in Denver. My hope is to get them the best information possible especially with regard to things like who their LNC rep is, what platform and bylaws amendments will be on deck, etc. As far as I know, the only change in region this year will be the addition of WV to region 5, though I'll go around in Denver and hit up the region reps for current lists so that I can update things when I get home. One thing that'd be nice is historical regional rep information on the region pages, but I don't know where to find that information. The only historical region reps I really know are people who I know personally and have mentioned it in their bios/etc, which isn't a reliable way to put together that sort of information at all. It may also be worth asking the LNC to provide us with their historical data which they recently voted against placing on the website (I've spoken with Chuck Moulton about this, he's the one who raised that motion, and I'll be speaking with him some more in Denver...) -- Mdh 22:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey James, I'm the WV delegation chair and I'll be there Friday morning - maybe you can help with lobbying for the historical data. This site's turning into a good resource, if there are any complaints about the LNC having to pay workers or do work or pay for hosting or anything, we obviously can take that problem off their plate by putting it here. A wiki is a wonderful format for it. - Mdh 19:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Libertarian Wiki

Shouldn't this wiki somewhere mention Libertarian Wiki, as an external link? See related wikis. Nathan Larson 22:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. There's unfortunately a lot of things that need to be mentioned here that aren't yet (although random contributions have picked up since 400 or so copies of a flier I developed were distributed towards the end of the Denver convention). Thank you for making a start on some of these things. -- Strangelv 23:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

LP Idaho

Beware of lpidaho dot org, which is a spam page. It had been listed on the Idaho party page. Hope you're doing well since Denver, it was good meeting you James! Mdh 20:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

The honor is reciprocal. I'm glad you're back. There's been a significant increase in contributions by random people and some new accounts since the flier at Denver and Fossil Creek (Texas convention), but evidently nobody long term. Thank you for the warning about the link. -- Strangelv 05:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

A WikiProject for Wikipedia

Hi James. I will be happy to start helping out on Lpedia, but I also want to recruit people to help with a newly proposed WikiProject on Wikipedia. It turns out that IRS regulations instruct non-profit organizations like the The Wikipedia Foundation to treat all candidates in a U.S. election equally on their websites. Wikipedia does not do this currently, but I proposed a WikiProject to fix this. See my talk page. Rock Howard 13:27, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

New Wiki

I thought that you might like to know that there is a new wiki Mises Wiki. Pstudier 02:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for the words of appreciation. I do have information on Louisiana Parish's (we don't have counties) but we only have one that is organized (I am the Chair). The Caddo Parish affliate is organized but no other Parish is organized as of yet. Let me know if you need help with anything or need to delegate some work. Thanks.

A zillion users

I note that this wiki has 1,120,520 users, most of them spam. Bummer. My wiki has 213,073 users and has not allowed any edits since April 2010. How do you disable user creation? Pstudier 00:18, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Candidate lists

Do you happen to have, or know of a link to, nationwide candidate lists for the years 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007? Between (before the redesign) and The Internet Archive I was able to find nationwide candidate lists for 1996 - 2003 and 2008 - 2016, but I came up empty for those four years. Without a list to work from it will be extraordinarily difficult and maybe impossible to find election results in certain states. That's why I've been stopping at 2008 for state legislative races. I'm sure lists for those four years exist somewhere, though. AJPEG 01:00, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the only systematic source I have is the federal listings via the FEC (and that's involving a lot of work transcribing from scanned PDFs). There are some Internet sites that may have at least partial listings in this time period, but I've neglected to systematically document them anywhere and would need to try to find them from scratch. If you're on Facebook, I'd suggest asking in the LP History group -- someone there might have an idea that I don't.
I wonder if LPNews systematically listed anything at any point. There will hopefully soon be a scan of microfilm of 1972-1990.
-- Strangelv 09:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm not on Facebook. Thanks anyway.AJPEG 04:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Parser Functions

Is the ParserFunctions extension activated on this wiki? They seem to not be working. AMK152 (talk) 20:34, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

We presently have only a default selection of extensions, some of which we are unlikely to actually use and are likely to want to remove. A policy for consideration of adding extensions is sitting in my inbox.
FWIW, I've passed your request on to Caryn. Please be sure to bug us about this if we seem to have forgotten about it.
  • Sounds good. AMK152 (talk) 23:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Categories Not Generating

I have noticed that some categories are not generating a list of pages within that category, such as this: Category:Libertarian Party of New York. Any ideas for fixing it? I'm guessing it could be a back-end issue. AMK152 (talk) 02:07, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I believe our trouble ticket about this has been submitted. I've seen the 'we're working on it' response for what sounds like it. Categories aren't the only thing that's affected. Template changes can take more than a day to propagate and it can be several minutes before newly added articles stop showing as red links. Categories are the worst, though, as in many cases they seem to never update at all. Hopefully this will get fixed soon. It's hopefully our last major technical difficulty. -- Strangelv (talk) 02:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

"County" Parties

Is there any reason why this is a standard, when this doesn't account for parishes, boroughs, regional chapters? "Local affiliates" is a more general term and can include any city-based committees. AMK152 (talk) 05:15, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Also, while "Maryland County Parties" may refer to County parties in Maryland, "Washington County Parties" could refer to both parties within various "Washington Counties" or the within the state of Washington. AMK152 (talk) 05:18, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
If these exist, the state-specific category can reflect this. Louisiana says parishes; Alaska says boroughs; California says County and Regional Parties; Colorado says County and Affiliate Parties.
If a decision is made to change the existing structure that's one thing, but I'm trying to prevent a situation where we have a mess of inconsistent categories that would make finding things from Category:Main impractical -- we would need to change ALL the existing things over, preferably by replacing as few categories as possible. Also, please remember that category names should be capitalized in Title Case here, not Sentence case.
There's a lot of categories that need to be added to Category:Categories by State now that it exists. Maybe we need a wiki-wide to-do page for things like this and a suggestion list for discussions about things like renaming a bunch of categories.
Thank you for all the work you've done -- it's been impressive, and I'm not trying to be annoying. I'm just trying to keep up with the housekeeping, which is probably a more appropriate task for me at this stage than trying to systematically write new articles.
Okay, I've now created LPedia:TODO and LPedia:Suggestion Box. -- Strangelv (talk) 17:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
  • For automated tasks are we able to use AutoWikiBrowser on this wiki? That would help with many repetitive tasks. AMK152 (talk) 22:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with it. I never used such tools when I was editing Wikipedia. My main familiarity with any of them was watching with horror when people used Twinkle to go on deletionist rampages. Trying to read up on it now. -- Strangelv (talk) 23:16, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
  • AWB is a very useful tool, I have used it at Wikia for many things that help with various maintenance tasks. AMK152 (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

1974 LPNY At-Large

I see that AutoBio generated the articles for Bill Lawry, Andrea Millen, Mike Nichols, Ellen Davis, and Dolores Grande, listing them as At-Large Committee members for 1974. However, according to the April 1974 edition of Libertarian Forum, Lawry and Nichols were actually Vice Chairs, Grande was Treasurer. Millen and Davis were the only ones according to Rothbard that were At-Large Committee members in 1974. What is the source for AutoBio's information? AMK152 (talk) 21:36, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't remember where I found this information. Assume what you've found to be more accurate. It's possible that I was making an erroneous guess based on what I had. I've been operating off of some very sketchy information over the years, grateful to have even that. Thank you for catching this!
BTW, if you find yourself in a spot where it would make sense to load a bunch of people who don't already have articles into a spreadsheet, let me know and we can feed that spreadsheet into AutoBio. -- Strangelv (talk) 07:11, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Libertarian Party of Eagle County

You're listed as the deleter for the article on the Libertarian Party of Eagle County. (Assuming I'm reading it properly.) The problem is that the article was referenced by thirty some-odd other articles. I can't figure out how to find the references; apparently there must have been a Libertarian Party of Eagle County. (Or there's a lot more spam out there.) Should we recreate the article, find the articles linking to it, remove the links, and then delete the article? Right now it just seems weird. --Fcoulter (talk) 16:44, 24 November 2017 (CST)

  • I went and looked at it, and there is no content to restore - it seems to have been created as spam. You can search for what articles contain the references to see if we should re-create. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 03:24, 25 November 2017 (CST)
  • I don't remember deleting this specific article, but many article-creating attackers use existing redlinks to create garbage. I can't find this on the Internet Archive so it might not have been up for long. Short of spelunking into the Legacy Database of Doom we can't confirm one way or the other as to whether or not I fumbled and it was originally legitimate content before being overwritten with garbage, though. -- Strangelv (talk) 18:29, 29 November 2017 (CST)

James can you put your email addy on your user page?

As we discussed last meeting. CarynAnnHarlos (talk) 13:58, 24 January 2018 (CST)

"Deprecated Parameters"

Can you tell me what the specific deprecated parameters are in the Template:Cite template and how I would change the current ones in Gregory Creswell to represent the same citation content without "deprecated parameters"? I was trying to find others to compare to, but it looks like this may be the best referenced article in LPedia; some articles have no references at all. I don't know what's wrong with the parameters I am using other than that the naked URL is displayed where there should only be linked text. Michigun (talk) 15:47, 11 March 2019 (CDT)

Andrew has been doing most of the work on templates, and I am not fully up to speed on what changes he's working on.
One thing I wonder about is did this article start elsewhere, and if anyone worked on it before you did. There are some statutory and perhaps licence/contractual details that have often been overlooked by people when adding content here (since before I discovered LPedia in 2006), thus my asking. It does look like a really nice article, and if at all possible I'd like to be able to keep it here. -- Strangelv (talk) 17:27, 13 March 2019 (CDT)

Lpedia policy on scanning publications

After reading a recent reason article about big tech crackdowns I'm a bit paranoid about discussing scanning copyrighted material you know where. Either TOS violations or even eventual snitching elsewhere.

What is LPedia's policy on that? I'm sure the LV has no problem with us doing it. If you have written permission say so and then we can discuss that one over there. Meanwhile I can immediately send you the 3 that are in 8.5 x 11 form like the ones already scanned at the article. But I do want originals back til decide exactly what to do with my whole collection. The rest are big almost newspaper size ones.

I also have other old Lib publications of historical interest in that format, easily scanned. LP-1979 (talk) 09:02, 29 June 2019 (CDT)

Ben Leder page Is he still member of LPRC national or Texas? LP-1979 (talk) 06:18, 12 July 2019 (CDT)